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The Casual Abortion

Last week, a new report came out that showed women were more casual about abortions now – rather than something to be avoided, some women would have multiple abortions instead of using birth control (or heaven forbid, abstaining altogether).

A dramatic rise in repeat abortions has reinforced fears that women are increasingly having terminations for lifestyle reasons.
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Women between 20 and 24 have taken over from teenagers as the largest age group to have terminations, while only one in 100 abortions is carried out solely because of a medical risk to the baby.

“Lifestyle reasons”? As if that attitude toward eliminating a baby wasn’t cavalier enough, a radio show in Washington D.C. had a call-in contest for the listener with the most abortions. Some callers asked if there was a prize, like a t-shirt or a shop-vac.

First, there’s the woman who had a forced abortion when she was 13.

Caller: “Yeah, hi, you’re, you’re uh talking about abortion.”
Elliot: “Yes. Just having a little contest.”
Caller: “Yeah, I was uh 13 and dating this guy for like six months. I got pregnant by him.”
Elliot: “At 13?!”
Caller: “Yeah. And I don’t really know my mother’s side of the family that well.”
Elliot: “Right”
Caller: “So we went to one of his family get-togethers and I recognized the lady that turned out to be my grandmother.”
Elliot: “Pardon me?”
Caller: “And it turns out that he was my second cousin”
Elliot: “Sweet.”
Caller: “I was like two months pregnant and my father forced me to get an abortion.” Laughter.

Ugh. Catholic Online andMichelle Malkin don’t think it’s funny, either.

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19 responses to “The Casual Abortion”

  1. Sean Avatar
    Sean

    How can one deny that we are living in a culture that embraces death?

    If God is just, I tremble for my country.
    Thomas Jefferson 😦

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  2. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    I think it’s pretty clever to make up a label, then act outraged at the label you made up. (Talking universal you, not you-you)

    Abortion will always be a problem in this country as long as we focus on abortion. To stop abortion, energies must be directed at preventing pregnancy. And I’d say anyone who had premarital sex is pretty much excluded from thinking teaching abstinance is the best route to get there.

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  3. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    Sean, I’m appalled that it’s so casual, they having mock contests on the radio.

    And Jo, I’m not surprised you’re such a fan of abortion. What’s your favorite part?

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  4. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    Michael, I’m not surprised one bit that you cast your own bias on my post, even though I didn’t say anywhere that I approved of abortion at all. Can you quote the part of my post that says abortion is a good thing? I’ll wait.

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  5. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    It’s in the same part where I said abstinence is the only way to get there.

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  6. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    LOL!! Where did I say YOU said anything about abstinance? It was just a general comment about reducing the number of abortions. My bad for thinking we were discussing something here. I brought up the abstinance angle because you linked to Catholic Online, and the Catholic church most certainly does promote abstinance as the solution to unwanted pregnancy among unmarried women.

    So, you’re saying you made up something I didn’t say in retaliation for erroneously thinking I made up something you didn’t say? That’s an interesting tactic. Doesn’t do much to foster communication, though. Kinda like making up labels, applying them to people, and then expressing outrage at them for having the label stuck on them.

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  7. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    I just assumed you were going to disagree with me. Since you disagree that you disagree with me, I’m happy that you agree with me – that the world is too cavalier about abortions.

    At least, I’m assuming you agree with me. It’s difficult for me to tell sometimes.

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  8. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    Always keep ’em guessing! 😆

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  9. Sean Avatar
    Sean

    OK, so what is Jo’s point?
    Abortion = Death.
    Culture supports abortion.
    Culture supports death.
    Any questions?

    Words do mean things.

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  10. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    My point is that if you want to change behavior, setting up an adversarial relationship with those whose behavior you wish to change is not very effective. Also, if you want to get people to make different choices, then presenting them with viable alternatives to that choice is a pretty good place to start.

    Yes, words mean things, which is why trivializing the decision to abort a child with words like “cavalier” and “lifestyle reasons” is exactly the wrong way to go about changing things. It’s a great way to stir up indignation among those who already see things your way, but when it comes to reaching those who don’t – not so much.

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  11. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    What word would you choose to describe somebody laughing at their last abortion on the radio, a man claiming to have encouraged 16 abortions and wondering if there was a prize, or a woman that’s had 6 abortions in a year? Some new-age, feel good word like “reproductively ambivalent?”

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  12. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    I’d call them “not the norm”. There’s a fringe element everywhere, and those are not the ones you should be trying to reach, nor should they be given any credibility, nor should they be mistaken as representative of anything other than the fringe.

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  13. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    That would disagree with the first article I quoted, that it’s moved beyond the fringe. I can call them “not the norm” if you wish, but I don’t think that’s any better than “casual” or “cavalier.”

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  14. Sean Avatar
    Sean

    Call a thing by its name.
    Softpeddling the truth is not much good, and allows people to make morally bankrupt decisions – but they feel good about it. “Therapuetic cloning” for example. What a nice way to say it, don’t you agree?

    Other examples spring to mind, such as “Freedom of Choice”, “unviable tissue mass”, “Pro-Choice”, “Progressive”, “Reproductive Rights”, “Woman’s Health Issues”.

    Why is it that the Inuit have so many names for snow? Because it is important to them. In a similar manner, I think that the Pro-Abortion crowd keep throwing words up on the wall to see if there is a better way to describe the killing of babies, that can make people feel good about their actions – its important to them.

    So, now, brand me as a man, right wing wacko, member of the patriachy, gender biased radical sect, and that label allows you to ignore my position. These words are simply straw men.

    While I don’t mean to offend, and I support all that we can do to prevent abortions by preventing pregnancies through abstinance, I cannot retreat from the true meaning of the action. Abortion is the murder of children by their parents, it is infanticide. The Western world since pagan times has not allowed this to be seen as morally right. To think otherwise, is simply to fool oneself into a morally unacceptable act.

    “What is Truth?” and herein lies the problem. Truth, if it is variable, or able to be twisted and re-defined by cultures, or people (“that’s your truth”) has no value. Meaning, that without the guidance of truth to steer by, you have no moral path, no test of faith upon which to base action, and thereby you accept feelings as a substitute to compunction. That’s a long winded way to say the culture’s equivalent: If it feels good, do it.

    Shame, compunction, feeling bad about bad decisions all have served humans well. It is the whispered voice in your heart that we all should listen to. It’s just easier to overlay the voice with platitudes that appeal to our animal nature: BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEE????. The soul, however starves on platitudes. It needs the sunlight of truth in full measure. This, in my simple belief if why the culture accepts this horrible act, and is more concerned with the feelings of those who commit it, than it is with the innocent victims.

    Somewhere, we have gone horribly wrong, when wrongs are called right and right things are called wrong. – don’t you agree?

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  15. Sean Avatar
    Sean

    Wow, I’m so long winded, my post missed the topic – quit sliding around guys, I can only type so fast. :mrgreen:

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  16. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    Michael – the first article does exactly what I believe is the wrong thing – which is trivialize the decision to abort by lumping “most” abortions into the same catagory as those displayed by the radio contest. While such a ploy serves to incite those who already oppose abortion, it does absolutely nothing to actually reduce the problem. If what you really want is to stop abortions, then you must have compassion for those who make the choice. Talking down to someone doesn’t lift them up to where the view is clearer.

    Sean – you are grossly mistaken if you think that abortion was uncommon in the past. Abortion wasn’t uncommon, it was unrecorded. All shame did was prevent women from admitting they had one.

    The “meaning of the action” is not contained in the words “cavalier” and “lifestyle reasons”. Those words do nothing to address the problem. They do not give other options to women faced with unwanted pregnancy. They do not prevent unwanted pregnancy. They do nothing but alienate the very people to whom you are trying to reach.

    If I start off by saying your approach to life-altering choices is cavalier, how much will you listen to the rest of what I have to say? How open will you be to my message? How high is that wall I threw up between us, before we even had a chance to communicate?

    I find it interesting that you promote “prevent(ing) abortions by preventing pregnancies through abstinance” but not through other means. Is that because the young people you knew back in your single days were so good at abstaining?

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  17. Michael Avatar
    Michael

    If I am mature, I will listen to somebody that says I’m not serious about something. Happens every Sunday, in fact.

    The words *do* mean something. They are discouraging; I hope they offset the circus celebration of the abortion lifestyle that’s so promoted in the secular world. Is it so bad to desire to discourage abortions? I think discouragement is called for.

    Some young people I knew were very good at abstention. Looking back, I admire those people greatly. And I’m practicing abstention now when the secular world tells me I don’t have to.

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  18. Jo Avatar
    Jo

    Bingo. If you are mature. How many mature people do you think are getting abortions? Just who is your audience? What are you trying to accomplish?

    The words are *not* discouraging; they are offensive, as in going on the offense – and the natural response to that is to go into defensive mode. So if your goal is to make people defend their decision to abort, then you are going to be wildly successful.

    It’s telling that only “some” of the young people you knew were very good at abstention. Unfortunately, being “sort of good” at abstention isn’t going to prevent pregnancy. You’re practicing abstention now as a 40-something adult, but again I don’t think 40-something adults are the targets of the message you want to send.

    I’m all for abstinance (Cleopatra, anyone?) but it’s a short-term solution. Teen pregnancy and abortion is down, but abortion among twentysomethings is up. When you’ve held out as long as you can, and no one has given you any other options, pregnancy is a logical consequence.

    I am curious how many women you know who have had abortions. And how many women you know who you know have had abortions. I suspect those two numbers are different, and I suspect they are different because the vast majority of women who abort are NOT cavalier about the decision. It’s a desperate decision made by women who don’t see any other option. I don’t see your words offering them any other options.

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